I feel you. At this point I basically just watch the show for something to do on Mondays but most of my fan-girling is in fandom because the show is a fuck-up but fandom is wonderful and welcoming.
Srsly. In an embarassing turn of events, I almost cried at work today because of this recent idiocy. It’s getting to the point where I hate that I’m letting this show hurt me. I’m ashamed of ever having given it the power to hurt me.
Teen Wolf got that power over me because I’ve loved it. So yeah, I guess I’m kind of ashamed of that love. And that just breaks my heart.
I’m with you. I stopped watching the show early in 3A, but now I think I’ll have to leave the fandom entirely. I can’t support people like this.
Yeah, I’m so very conflicted because I have a couple of people on my dash who I love, but they post quite a bit of Teen Wolf stuff, so I’m not entirely sure how to go forth. I already did a seriously ridiculous culling on my dash a couple of months back because I just could not take mention of a lot of TW-related stuff, so I don’t want to unfollow more people. But part of me really wants to just… purge Teen Wolf from my life entirely. Sigh.
Anonymous asked:Kind of random, but your comment about how someone said the fic was "disjointed" reminded me of it: I often feel that at least some of the TW actors have pretty distorted views regarding... things, basically. Just this morning, I saw a quote of Posey's saying how it's so great that they're emphasising "the gay storyline" so strongly and how that's made viewers realise that it's okay to be gay. And everyone was just... what show are you watching? Or working for, for that matter? Really bizarre.
I can’t remember where, but I know that a while back, someone on tumblr (I think?) made a really clever comment about how a show (or any media product, really) might look or “feel” different to the people making it and the people consuming it. It’s probably because they experience it differently, because there are edits and retakes and all of that stuff, and because the creators are absolutely saturated in the product they’re working on. And it’s very true, I know from personal experience that I interact a whole lot differently with stuff I create myself, and stuff I consume that other people have created. It’s pretty much impossible to remove those creator goggles.
So I guess maybe that’s part of it? It also matters what environment you’re in? Like, if the people on the show are in this echo chamber of all the cool stuff they’ve done, like “ooh, we have minority charas, this is all so awesome!”, while fandom is experiencing it completely differently and sharing and refining those experiences in their own echo chamber, it makes sense that the two groups’ realities don’t match.
I think Teen Wolf would do a lot better if they actually listened to constructive criticism instead of acting like butthurt five-year-olds. It’s possible the constructive criticism is drowning in flames and wank, from their end, but surely some of it has sifted through. If they were really willing to listen to their fans, and take an actual stand on social issues and representation, they would at least try to create some kind of platform or environment where they could address the concerns of their fans.
They haven’t. They don’t seem to want to. They don’t seem to respect us enough to want to. And I don’t know about everybody else, but I generally don’t respect people who refuse to respect me back.
Anonymous asked:Re: wanting tw to crash and burn, I totally agree. I actually am a bit bitter about how so, so many fans are absolutely done with their shit but still keep watching. I understand you can criticise sth and still enjoy it but you can see that isn't the case for many, actually. Ofc it's no good griping at fellow fans but I can't help feeling tw will never learn their lesson if angry fans still contribute to their ratings regardless. What incentive do they have to change, then? :/
I know how you feel, anon. It’s like… on one hand, you wish people would stop giving this show the time, money and space to do the hurtful, poisonous stuff they’re doing, but on the other hand, you don’t want to harsh on anyone’s squee, or dictate how they should consume their media.
I guess there’s no real “correct” answer here. I think all we can do, really, is actually call the show on what they’re doing, and have open, rational - as much as possible, anyway - discussions about it. In the end, I’m pretty sure everyone has some kind of tipping point of what they can and cannot take, so let’s try our best to respect that and be good to each other. Let’s do our best to keep our fandom as safe a space as we can, even if people (from fandom or from TPTB) try to sabotage that.